Could Penarth train station be on the move?

FINAL STOP? Councillor Lis Burnett has proposed moving Penarth train station (9460549)

TRAIN STATION: The Penarth railway line could benefit from the electrification of the Valley Lines network (9460558)

TRANSPORT LINK: Under the proposals Penarth train station could be replaced with a car park(9460568)

A BRIDGE TOO FAR? Cllr Lis Burnett has floated the idea of moving the train station the other side of the railway bridge (9460575)

TRAIN: The new platform could be located on land between Westbourne School and the Penarth Conservative Club(9460592)

RAILWAY LINE: Cllr Lis Burnett overlooking where the new Penarth train station could be (9460607)

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A PENARTH councillor has announced ambitious plans to demolish the town’s train station and replace it with a car park.

Councillor Lis Burnett, who represents the St Augustines ward, is proposing moving the train station to the other side of the railway bridge in a bid to free up parking spaces in the town centre.

Cllr Burnett believes that with the planned electrification of the railway lines across Wales moving the train station would be the best option, as the overhanging gantries wouldn’t fit under the bridge.

Other proposals include rebuilding the bridge, which she said would cause "horrendous" traffic problems and bring very little benefit, and digging the track lower into the ground so that the gantries would fit underneath it.

Under the proposals people would walk under the bridge from Station Approach to get to the new station, which would be located on land between Westbourne School and the Penarth Conservative Club.

For the Dingle and Cogan railway bridges it is either being proposed that they are both replaced or have the ground underneath them dug lower. Cllr Burnett said they were considering a third alternative for the Penarth bridge as it was at the end of the railway line.

A spokesman from Network Rail said the electrification project was at an early stage with funding yet to be confirmed, but that once it was they would be "identifying bridges that are too low to accommodate electrification infrastructure and analysing the most appropriate engineering solutions to ensure the required clearance for overhead electrical lines".

Cllr Burnett, cabinet member for regeneration, said that at the moment she doesn’t know how much it would cost, who would pay for it, or when work would start. There is currently a dispute between Welsh Government and UK Government about who will pay for the electrification of the railway lines, which is set to run into billions of pounds.

Cllr Burnett, of Redlands Road, said that the Vale Council had been in discussions with Network Rail to find out what needed to be done to accommodate electrification, as a review of all the bridges on railway lines across Wales is carried out.

“We need all these big gantries above the railway lines to hold the cabling,” she said.

“Most of the bridges in the valley lines are too low, so you either replace the bridge or dig ground way underneath.”

She said about the railway bridge in Penarth town centre: “It doesn’t bear thinking about what would happen if they took out the bridge. One thing that is being considered is moving the station to the other side.”

She added that she believed moving the station would have a number of benefits to visitors to the town and local businesses.

“It would help to reinvigorate this area of the town,” she said.

“I don’t know whether it would solve parking in the town, but the town has been looking for a car park for however long and I don’t know where else in all honesty.

“We are a long way off getting any agreement but I think it is one that must be seriously considered.”

She said there would be “horrendous issues” if the bridge was replaced and as you wouldn’t get more than two lanes of traffic there would be no further benefit.

She said that the aim of the electrification of the railway lines was to develop a “turn up and go” approach, where “if you miss one train there will be another one in a reasonable amount of time”.

She added: “We have got to keep the station, but it’s a question of seeing what is the best way with electrification and is there some way of doing something positive for the town while we do it.

“We are being creative about the options available to us to provide facilities for the town.”

A spokesman from Network Rail said: “Network Rail is continuing to work closely with both the UK and Welsh governments on the project to electrify the Valley Lines network.

“The project is at an early stage and funding is yet to be confirmed. Should funding become available and the project be developed further, Network Rail will begin detailed analysis on the railway infrastructure on the network. This will include a process of identifying bridges that are too low to accommodate electrification infrastructure and analysing the most appropriate engineering solutions to ensure the required clearance for overhead electrical lines.”

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3:31pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Mr Doovde says...

This is a good idea and should be carried out, but why not take it one step further, do we really need 2 stations, why not stop the line at Dingle road and utilise all the space in between.
This is a good idea and should be carried out, but why not take it one step further, do we really need 2 stations, why not stop the line at Dingle road and utilise all the space in between. Mr Doovde
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2:39am Fri 22 Aug 14

Ian Perry says...

Mr Doovde, don't you mean Cogan Station? Perhaps all the track west and north of Cardiff Central should be converted in to car parking, or even new roads? Let's finish what Beeching started!

Humans might have got to the moon, but sometimes getting under a bridge is too difficult...
Mr Doovde, don't you mean Cogan Station? Perhaps all the track west and north of Cardiff Central should be converted in to car parking, or even new roads? Let's finish what Beeching started! Humans might have got to the moon, but sometimes getting under a bridge is too difficult... Ian Perry
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8:38am Fri 22 Aug 14

mendip14 says...

Looking at google maps, it seems that it wouldn't take much, if and when electrification takes place, to extend the line to Forest Rd.
Looking at google maps, it seems that it wouldn't take much, if and when electrification takes place, to extend the line to Forest Rd. mendip14
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12:11pm Fri 22 Aug 14

huw133 says...

I don't think this is a good idea. The electrification project should be an opportunity to explore the potential to re-open the line to Lower Penarth, Sully and on to Barry. This would go a long way to address the traffic and transport concerns about the proposals for further housing development around Sully.
I also hope that the re-opening of the Penarth Dock station at Cogan forms part of the scheme to encourage use of the railway by resident of Penarth Marina and Ferry Road.
I don't think this is a good idea. The electrification project should be an opportunity to explore the potential to re-open the line to Lower Penarth, Sully and on to Barry. This would go a long way to address the traffic and transport concerns about the proposals for further housing development around Sully. I also hope that the re-opening of the Penarth Dock station at Cogan forms part of the scheme to encourage use of the railway by resident of Penarth Marina and Ferry Road. huw133
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6:25pm Fri 22 Aug 14

mendip14 says...

huw133 wrote:
I don't think this is a good idea. The electrification project should be an opportunity to explore the potential to re-open the line to Lower Penarth, Sully and on to Barry. This would go a long way to address the traffic and transport concerns about the proposals for further housing development around Sully.
I also hope that the re-opening of the Penarth Dock station at Cogan forms part of the scheme to encourage use of the railway by resident of Penarth Marina and Ferry Road.
I believe the old track is mostly built on, but that shouldn't be a barrier to extending the line, it would just have to run on existing roads, but that would probably involve a tram system similar to Manchester. The problem is it would be very expensive.
[quote][p][bold]huw133[/bold] wrote: I don't think this is a good idea. The electrification project should be an opportunity to explore the potential to re-open the line to Lower Penarth, Sully and on to Barry. This would go a long way to address the traffic and transport concerns about the proposals for further housing development around Sully. I also hope that the re-opening of the Penarth Dock station at Cogan forms part of the scheme to encourage use of the railway by resident of Penarth Marina and Ferry Road.[/p][/quote]I believe the old track is mostly built on, but that shouldn't be a barrier to extending the line, it would just have to run on existing roads, but that would probably involve a tram system similar to Manchester. The problem is it would be very expensive. mendip14
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